[MUSIC PLAYING] The spouse absolutely has a right to seek help. The spouse is affected by a pornography habit of the other spouse. There's just no question about it; you can't avoid that. And so the spouse who is impacted has a right to seek help and to have her--let's say it's a wife--her challenges addressed in all of this and how it affects her. And I would hope that the bishops and other leaders who counsel would not wait for a spouse to come forward and say, "Please help me." I think they ought to search them out. If they're going to deal with somebody who's got the challenge and help them along the way, part of that help is to help those at the same time who are affected, impacted by that. And so there's no reason not to receive the help or to seek the help on the part of a spouse. [MUSIC PLAYING]